Dialogue Practice:

Mostly about what dialogue practice is about and a bit about what dialogue practice is not about

Dialogue practice is not:
~ a place to make a particular point prevaile.
~ a debate or a discussion.
~ an attempt to make points.
~ a game to win or lose.

Our dialogue parctice is a way>
~ to peace and good will.                                                                                                                    ~for us to see our words as gifts.                                                                                                     ~ to keep a stream of meaning flowing among us.                                                                     ~ to an activity which helps us to be us.                                                                                       ~ through the meaning of word.                                                                                                     ~ to an honest, supportive activity.                                                                                                 ~ to greater awareness and enhanced consciousness.
~ hone our listening skills.
~ to develop new speaking skills.
~ to practic effective methods of communication.
~ to cultural preservation, growth, and creativity.

~ of making a healthy effective society more probable.
~ to meet interesting people.
~ of putting honest thoughts on the table where we can look at them and begin to find their meaning.
~ of being heard.
~ of finding pleasure in speaking up.
~ to understanding among us and within us.
~ to satisfying relationship.
~ to exchange idea and opinion.
~ to share experience.
~ to practice a second lnguage.
~ to more effective communication outside the group.               

 According to David Bohm, dialogue practice is:                                                                       ~ participating in a flow of meaning between us, through us, and among us.                 ~ an activity out of which emerges new and renewed understanding.                               ~ an activity which helps us be an us.

by Richard Sheehan
for Mago Bill

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Dialogue

My first post and I find that I am unable to guess how to use WordPress “categories.” In the publishing aids column I see that I can add a new category. I’ll add “Dialogue.”

Usually when I speak about dialogue I am talking about a special dialogue practiced by relatively few. Here in Colombia there are a few that hoped it would be a part of their “Dialogue For Peace.” Elsewhere it has been called an excellent listening practice. I’ll eat and then write a bit about the practice of this ‘dialogue.’ I haven’t eaten yet, but I do have some vegetables and chicken cooking. Let’s see if I can get this post cooking.

Dialogue, as I use the term here, is about the way members of a practice group use spoken language to safely share varied perspectives, attitudes, opinions, experiences, and assumptions with fidelity. There are a lot of rules to practice, several important ones have to do with listening.

This sharing is done in a way to help one to understand another’s way of seeing. It is designed to be a peaceful way to understanding and meaning. Some have thought it notably like a way of “fair fighting” taught by some psychologists to married couples having  some difficult issues. However, this dialogue is for larger groups.

A practice group called Magic Table Dialogue reminded us that each bit of speech in these dialogue practice groups may be found to be lasting gifts of the speakers to the listeners. This kind of speech which we simply call dialogue is becoming a way to look deeply at assumptions and to see them with respect and understanding.

My intention is to continue posting about this useful dialogue practice here on Mago Bill.I am just now remembering that all of our practice in developing this dialogue method has been in face to face situations. While here I do not see your face or even have a notion of your identity or avatar. I have no idea of how this practice may be done online!

I would very much like to hear from you. There must be a way to comment here on the site.

I hope to write more about dialogue, prehistory, governance, etc.

I have eaten a feel better. Even though the veggies were only potatoes, onions, and tomatoes, they were really delicious.

Please tell what you think about the font, paragraphing, etc. I am not completely new to blogging, but this is my first effort on WordPress. So I can use, with great gratitude, any suggestions about layout of this blog platform or how I am using it.

Thank you for reading my first post here!

 

 

by Richard Sheehan

for Mago Bill

 

 

 

 

 

American Grasslands, Including a Prussian Baron

In North America, there are Prairies and Plains. In South America, there are pampas and llanos. All four are relatively level grasslands.

In the South of South America one often hears the word pampas and in the north of that continent, one more often hears the word llanos. All of these wide grasslands have their stories. The following is meant to be a kind of appetizer. It is meant to give you a taste for the stories from South America.

Only ten thousand years ago people were killing and eating doedicurus not far from the present location of the great Argentinian city of Buenos Aires. In case you are not well acquainted with your doedicurus, they are a kind of glyptodont. You might want to call the people doing the killing and eating, American Indians.

In the late 1500s Spanish Americans began to settle the pampa. By 1833 there were about 40 million (million!) head of “wild” cattle on the Argentinian grassland. These cattle were the offspring of those brought and “lost” by the earlier explorers and settlers. Sounds reminiscent of happenings in North America, doesn’t it? During the increase of these heard, the number of Indians on the pampa diminished.

Heading to the north of the continent we learn about Llaneros, men and women of the llanos. Llaneros formed most of Bolivar’s cavalry. That cavalry did much to overthrow Spanish rule over the people of the continent in the early 1820s. Who is Bolivar? You may well ask; as Simon Bolivar was a very important personage of the period. But, we were speaking of Llaneros. Descendants of those Llaneros can still be found in the plains of Colombia and Venezuela. Some of them still resist the dominion of the “Yankee Imperialist.” A famous old song is known by more than a few of those Llaneros. A refrain of that song goes, ” Sobre mi caballo, solo yo; sobre yo, solo mi sombrero.” In English, it might go “Over my horse, only me; over me, only my hat. It’s about liberty, freedom.

Among the first noted horsemen to explore the llanos of the north were German “conquistadores”  whose patrons had loaned vast sums of money to Spanish royalty.  What did influential Spaniards do with the wealth they gained from their New World colonies? What did influential Americans do with the enormous wealth they gained from the great American empire? The sponsors of the three German groups sent to South America gained little wealth from their ventures. Still, Spanish royalty was able to pay off much of its debt. And Germans later profited by beginning the first South American airline. In fact, that might have been the first private airline in all the Americas. My memory is almost as old as I am, so I am not always sure of my facts.

About 270 years after the ventures of the German “conquistadores,” the Spanish crown allowed another prominent foreigner into South America and it’s llanos. That person was baron Alexander von Humbolt. Every educated American and European ought to know that name. I don’t think that he began these travels as baron, but I  choose to call him that. The baron was a Prussian naturalist and much more. He ould become the father of modern geography and ….except for Napoleon…. the best known European of his time.

I think Humboldt told the story of a camp in the llanos where his host was so disturbed early one night that the baron too felt the disturbance. Unknown to either of them, in the dry packed earth directly beneath his host’s hamaca, a very large alligator-like animal was hibernating through the dry season. Just as his host was composed for sleep, something disturbed the crocodilian. To the surprise of all, it erupted from the earth noisily thrashing its tail. However, soon it was walking away with an air of disgust and soon the camp was peacefully at rest.

 

by Richard Sheehan

for Mago Bill

Colombian Environmental Notes

Colombians are supporting practical plans to:

  • restore the native riparian vegetation along streams. They want cleaner water in the mountain streams and cleaner water for the agricultural settlements.
  • develop decentralized networks tor suppling many megawatts of renewable energy with the many small efficient generators now available.
  • improve shipping strategies so that less packaging and less fuel is used.
  • establish reliable methods of measuring progress in emissions reduction.
  • increase local food production in urban greenbelts and elsewhere.
  • encourage foot, bicycle, and public transit use with practical design and inventiveness.
  • devote more (60%) of new city development to green space.

Others elsewhere can and are supporting similar practical plans.

 

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Civics for the Brave and the Free

Civics includes the study and practice of the rights and duties of citizenship. Civics is much about the things we do which affects our fellow citizens. Is there civics teaching in a school near you?

It is useful to remember that civility is an important part of effective civics and politics.

We can benefit and profit by learning>                                                                                             ~ More of “civility.”                                                                                                                                ~ some collaborative leadership.                                                                                                        ~ about consensus building.                                                                                                                ~ a deeper level of tolerance.                                                                                                                ~ about sources of conflict.                                                                                                                  ~ how people who are fundamentally different from one another can develop sensitivities that will enable us to get along with a person different from us.

We are at our best when we>                                                                                                              ~ are listening.                                                                                                                                        ~ are working in partnership with others.                                                                                      ~ lead by example.                                                                                                                                ~ have the courage to be appropriately humble.

Learn, educate yourself, find out what others have to say, organize, plan, act.

We have a lot to learn. An old aunt of mine used to say that by beginning we are half way there. Once one begins one does one’s best to keep on keeping on.

Civics? Try it where you live.

 

by Richard Sheehan                                                                                                                              for Mago Bill

 

 

 

 

 

Dialogue Practice Notes

Dialogue Practice is not a:
~ place to make a particular point prevail.
~ debate or discussion.
~ an attempt to gain points.
~ game to win or lose.

A dialogue practice group is a way:
~ to an activity which helps us to be us.
~ through the meaning of word.
~ to an honest supportive activity.
~ to greater awareness and enhanced consciousness.
~ to hone your listening skills.
~ to develop new speaking skills.
~ to practice effective methods of communicating.
~ to cultural preservation, growth, and creativity.
~ of making a healthy effective society more probable.
~ To meet interesting people in an interesting environment.
~ Of putting honest thoughts on the table where we can look at them and begin to find their meaning.
~ of finding pleasure in speaking up.
~ to understanding among us and within us.
~ to satisfying relationships.
~ to exchange idea and opinion.
~ to share experience.
~ to more effective communication outside the group.
~ to practice a “second” language.
~ to peace and good-will.
~ for us to see our words as gifts.
~ to keep a stream of meaning flowing among us.

According to David Bohm, dialogue practice is:
~ participating in a flow of meaning between us, through us, and among us.
~ an activity out of which emerges new and renewed understanding.
~ an activity which helps us to be us.

by Richard Sheehan
for Mago Bill

Let’s Have a Party

Or, let’s have a platform. Or, let’s have a plank. “A Party” sounds more attractive, but I have reason to consider a plank first

The kind of plank I am considering is political. It is the name given to fundamental parts of a political platform. Political party platforms are made up of planks. This kind of plank does not come from a lumbar yard. but rather from the minds of men and women. We can shape one, or more planks.

Most of us have some ideas about the nature of a political party. Historically each person running for political office usually has a platform much like the platform of his party. So, we may consider that a platform is what a person running for political office stood on and, perhaps for. In Great Britain, I believe, one stood for office rather than running for it as one does in the USA. A platform was once more often about  one stood for rather than on. A party and its platform may be much about wants, interests, needs, desires, values, and even philosophy of citizens, th men and women of the nation.

So, parties can have platforms. An important part of those platforms are its planks. Each plank is likely to represent a specific want, need, value of citizens.

Now I am less interested in specific candidates, and even parties and much more interested in the specifics of the platform they stand on. The specifics are best found in the planks.

So we can be  in our platforms and the planks of those platforms.  We can be interested in the nature of specific planks we can be proud to stand for. We need to be practically aware of our fellow citizens. We can work to polish solid planks to see implemented among the people of our nation.

We can continue work on planks which  represent real and specific values and needs to present to our fellows in highly understandable and attractive ways.

We can practice justice and honesty as we form some great planks. With those great planks we can form a great platform. On that great platform we can learn to stand a great (new) party. A party to be proud of entails constant, renewal, reform, update, and cleaning. It’s a lot of work and there are a lot of us.

Haven forbid that other parties copy planks we present.

 

by Richard Sheehan

for Mago Bill

 

 

 

Civility

Try it where you live.

It is useful to remember that civility is an important part of effective civics and politics.

We can benefit by learning:

  • more of civility.
  • some collaborative leadership.
  • about consensus building.
  • a deeper level of tolerance.
  • about sources of conflict.
  • how people who are fundamentally different from one another can develop sensitivities that will enable them to get along.

We are at our best when we:

    • are listening.
    • are working in partnership with others.
    • lead by example.
    • have the courage to be appropriately humble.

Learn, educate yourself, find out what others have to say, organize, plan.

We have a lot to learn. My old aunt said that by beginning we are half way there. After that, one keeps on keeping on.

by Richard Sheehan

for Mago Bill

Let’s Have a Party

Or, let’s have a platform. Or, let’s have a plank. “A party” sounds most attractive, but I have reason to consider a plank first.


The kind of plank I am considering is political. It is the name given to fundamental parts of a political platform. Political party platforms are made  up of planks. This kind of plank does not come from a tree, but rather from the minds of men and women.  We can shape one, or more.

We have some ideas about the nature of a political party.  Historically each person running for political office  usually had a platform much like the platform of his party. So we know that a platform is what a person running for office stood on. I Great Britain, I believe, stood for office rather than running for office as one does in the US. A platform was once more about what party stood for rather than stood on. A party and it’s platform may be much about wants, interests, needs, desires, values, and even philosophy of citizens, the men and women of the nation.

So, parties had platforms. An important of those platforms were its planks.  Each plank was likely to represent a specific want, interest need, etc.

Right now I a less interested in specific candidates, elections, or parties and am more interested in the specifics the platform they stand on. The specifics are best found in the planks

So, I am interested in platforms and the planks of those platforms, I am interested in specific planks and sets of planks one can stand on and for. 

I want a solid plank I can work on and see implemented in our nation.  I am interested in a plank I can be proud to stand up for. I am interested in a plank which represents real and specific values and interests in an understandable and attractive way.

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First we form some great planks. With them we can make a great platform.  On that great platform can stand a great (new) party.  A party to be proud of.


Heaven forbid that other parties should copy a plank of ours. 

 

 

by Richard Sheehan

for Mago ill

 

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